Alistair will not hesitate to kill Loghain and there is nothing you can do to stop him. There may be dialogue options with Eamon and Anora to open up the marriage dialogue. My elf mage had an option to say to Eamon, "So, she's single now, right?
He was in love with Leliana and true to his flaky blue-eyed bard. Thankyou, I've tried her with my Dalish Elf actaully, she refuses saying that I'm not a noble so people would be against it and then she said "No" right in my face. I'm really planning on marrying her this time, so I what I have to do are the following right?
I'm totally fine with exploring the outcomes at the Landsmeet myself because it is an easy load, I just don't want her to backstab me at the Landsmeet, because that would mean I gotta go do the whole Alienage Quest s all over again.. Fy can [ fahy - kan ] , February 4, UTC. I asked her I am sure I read from at least 3 sources that it is possible for the PC to become the King of Ferelden!
Doing that will get you most everyone, the side quest get you that person for sure i believe, so like 2 people. HAving a good persuade gets you one more it seems, i did all the side quest and had a low persuade and got anora to speak out for me and 2 people sided with loghain i believe.
So yeah get anora, have a good persuade and do the side quest. To get anora you have to at least tell her she will marry alistair takes persuading alistair , yourself if your a human male noble , or saying you'll support her. BUT at the time of decision you can choose otherwise.
Thank you, Insanity. That's one of the most-helpful answers that I've seen in a while, mostly due to the useless topics posted, but still, thank you.
I know the old man always votes for Loghain. Does anyone know anything about the "one guy" Insanity doesn't remember? User Info: Skitzocrayon. OH OH!!
Try doing a search, as to not waste everyone's time. Change your name, change your eyes, become the one who I despise. Gamertag: Nevik overkill. What did you search. I couldn't find anything and I tried to be thourough. Maybe I missed something. If I had more than one name on the site, I guess it wouldn't be a problem. User Info: knosss. I didn't know it also has some sort of connection to Crow side quests? One of the quests is against Howe, though. Obviously you lie to one of them, but it doesn't matter.
During the landsmeet, I think mentioning noble torture will lead Loghain to accuse you murdered Howe, so that actually net you some negative points. The decision requires five "points" to win the Landsmeet. These points are unlikely to match up with the voting as presented in the cutscene; thus the Warden might seem to win the vote, yet lose the debate. However, the values of each scenario are:. The last noble to speak does not represent a winnable vote, but summarizes the vote's outcome instead his vote and the outcome of the debate never differ, as with the canceling votes of Bryland and Ceorlic.
There are multiple ways to win the Landsmeet. Just be careful when presenting the arguments of Ostagar or Alistair's claim to the throne: the first isn't backed by any evidence, and without successful Persuasion, pursuing either of these will cost you a point. In fact, any Warden who leads with Alistair's claim, then follows by accusing Loghain of his Ostagar treason, automatically loses the debate.
Use the "focus on the Blight" argument in the first round, the "torture dungeons of Howe" argument in the second, and the "poisoning of Arl Eamon" argument in the third. If done successfully, Loghain will bring up the topic of Anora being held by the Wardens. To this, use " What have I done? I've protected her from you! You cannot bring up the arguments of Howe and Eamon since you do not have any proof.
You need Anora's support and persuasive arguments which do not cost you any points, which is Blight in the first round, slavery in the second and Alistair's claim with a successful persuade check in the third. If you have not gained the support of the majority of the nobles, you lose the debate. If this happens, Loghain will order you arrested, with Arl Eamon declaring he will fight back.
A melee breaks out in the Landsmeet chamber. If you win the Landsmeet, Loghain will accuse everyone of being traitors and refuse to give up power, and you can either directly challenge him to an honorable duel or simply attack.
Brawl : Arl Eamon and his men will back you up; Anora's royal guards will also help you against Loghain if you have supported her for succession to the throne. Other named nobles fight on the side of whomever they support. After you deplete Loghain's health, the Grand Cleric and nobles will break up the fight, and suggest that the matter be settled with a one-on-one duel. Whether you win or lose the debate, and whether you brawl openly or have Loghain call off his men to settle things honorably, the fate of Ferelden is left up to a duel between Loghain and the Warden, Alistair, or a companion fighting as their champion.
Comments for being selected for this are:. If you keep refusing to duel, Alistair will decide there's no choice but to accept the Landsmeet's terms and duel Loghain himself.
Loghain fights with a sword and shield, and may switch to a crossbow if you move out of range. If you want to use more mundane tactics, Loghain is hard to hit, but you can even out the playing field immensely with some Soldier's Bane to keep his special attacks to a minimum. As Loghain doesn't use poultices, having a healthy stock of them yourself can help you simply outlast him provided they can actually be used between his knockdown-inducing abilities. There are a vast number of possibilities and outcomes for the main characters after Loghain has been defeated in the duel.
Some of these choices and options will only be available to characters with a high Coercion rank, or by laying groundwork for them in prior events. Depending on the choices made during the dialogue, deciding the fates of these characters can be a tangled affair, with one decision having significant consequences for the fate of the others.
After rescuing Anora and before the Landsmeet, you will have several opportunities to talk to Alistair regarding his becoming king. If you intend to make him king and are pursuing a positive relationship with him, and regardless of whether you really intend to have him marry Anora, you should convince him that it's a good idea, using either cunning or persuasion to do so. Otherwise, after the Landsmeet and the cutscene at Arl Eamon's estate, he will disapprove Also, this has to be done before leaving the estate for the Landsmeet; the necessary conversation options are not available after that.
However, it should be noted that if you have hardened Alistair and do not want him to rule, do not let him duel or kill Loghain otherwise the Warden will not get to decide and Alistair will automatically be made king. It is also important to note that if you want Alistair to rule jointly with Anora, you must not let Alistair execute Loghain after defeating him in battle which will also happen if you say Loghain must die, but then say you can't go through with it.
The phrase "I thought the two of you were going to marry" may need to be used. If Loghain is executed by Alistair, Anora will refuse to rule jointly with him and force you to choose between herself and Alistair. Anora will refuse to marry the man who kills her father, so if you are planning for either the male Human Noble or Alistair to rule with her, you must make the other individual perform the deed.
If you make Alistair rule jointly with Anora it is still possible to recruit Loghain. Though a "hardened" Alistair will not be happy, he will still rule jointly with Anora. However, if Loghain is recruited, Alistair will leave the party no matter what. Dragon Age Wiki Explore.
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Note: Once the Landsmeet is convened, and if Zevran was recruited as a companion, you will have a random encounter with Taliesen when you travel to any location outside the Market District, regardless of destination or intention. He does not have to be in the current party for this encounter to happen. If his approval is low enough he will betray the Warden, and if it is high enough it will force a party reselect and lock Zevran into the party for the fight with Taliesen.
It is likely you will have to complete this battle before you can access the destination you seek. If you do not wish to bring Zevran to rescue the queen, you must complete the encounter by traveling between the Market District and anywhere else such as the Pearl until it triggers, or bring Shale to force a party reselect at the estate.
Note: The reaction of the guards and servants to your party is a scripted event. This means that even with max stealth and high dexterity the servants will raise the alarm and turn the castle hostile to you the instant you enter the first room if you are not wearing the guard uniforms. The quest can still be completed without combat, since even though the castle is hostile to you, with a high enough stealth the guards will still not see you moving your party back into the little entrance hallway and telling them to hold position is recommended.
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